HART Conservatives have kept details of how they arrived at last week's council tax budget figure so secret that even their council leader, Robert Benford, did not know whether a Fleet youth club's financing had been cut or not, it was claimed this week.

The claim came from Lib Dem opposition leader Coun. David Simpson, who described Thursday's council meeting as a "farce". He said that Coun. Benford had denounced the cut of £2600 for the Youth Point in Fleet town centre. Coun. Carol Leversha said that it had not been cut, but it took 20 minutes to find out for sure.

"When the Conserva-tive Cabinet does not know what is going on, what chance do the rest of us have?" asked Coun. Simpson.