Well, Davy Crockett, I must challenge you on some of your broad statements...

"Oh god, so many people scared of change. We hated the Irish once, we hated the Italians once and we hated the French and German."

- Did 10,000 Irish, Italian, French or German descend on Rushmoor in the space of 4 or 5 years, many elderly, adding costs and pressure on housing, school places and doctor's surgeries?

"Aldershot has had many empty shops for a long time, and now the Nepalese open them up for business, we should be happy." - Ermm, why should we be 'happy'? Most businesses serve their own community only and not the wider one.

"I can now get a hair cut for 6 pounds instead of 10 pounds thanks to the Nepalese." - Do you really think £10 is too much for a hair cut? A barber shop must pay for staff, utilities, rent and rates before they even think of making a profit. You are happy that a Nepalese barber will undercut an existing barbers that has served the community for many years before the Nepalese arrived?

"I can now see some pretty faces instead of fat native faces thanks to the Nepalese." - If 'fat native faces' are a reason for welcoming tens of thousands more people to borough, then such a childish comment isn't worth responding too.

"While the Native Aldershot people sign on and get drunk, the Nepalese show some respect." - Some of us 'Native Aldershot' people run businesses and employ people. I have seen drunk Nepalese being assisted into police vans in Victoria Road - how dare you tar all of us with the same brush. What have you done with your life? And how do the Nepalese show respect? You can read the signs in Nepalese in the Wellington Centre, right?

"I have been to Nepal and they love the British, this is how we repay them. They would open their arms to us over there, but good old Aldershot wants them out." - We 'repayed' their loyalty with excellent remuneration compared to other jobs in Nepal. I've been to India and they love the British too - so what???

"Too many of Aldershot's native population have been on benefits for many years" - Do you have anything to back this up?

"the town has had many closed shops and has had the life sucked out of it by the recension." - The town was on its knees way before the recession, and the terminal decline started when the Paras went.

"The Nepalese turn up and rent houses, rent shops, pay taxes, pay council tax, open shops, open shops late and offer products that the local residents are ignorant to." - You have to be kidding me - what products are we 'ignorant' to? Enlighten us!

"The Aldershot residents should be thankful that their sad dieing town is attractive to the Nepalese." - Why should we be thankful? Do you think they want to help us out or something? They are attracted to Aldershot for the same reason that 'native' people from places like Guildford and Fleet relocate too - because its cheaper than nicer towns in the surrounding area!

So you've had a nice holiday in Nepal, and now you feel qualified to look down your nose at the people of Aldershot? Some people may find your 'native' inferiority vs 'Nepalese' superiority comments very offensive.

   Reply to Davy Crockett, Farnborough

I wish some would get their facts right before opening their mouth and putting so much rubbish on here!

Not all that come from Aldershot are on Benefits - I for one have been born here worked full time since 16 years old till recently when became ill from Cancer and still do not get help with Benefits.

Yes their are some that are on Benefits in this town and many are one parent mothers who have babies while at school or just after leaving school then are on benefits for 20 years or more - also most of the neighbours round near me are from Farnborough in the first instance and lived mostly on totlands estate, so not really from aldershot are they!

As for the Gurkha's I to like them but they expect full pensions when some have only been in army 4 years well sorry but not even the english - welsh - scottish or irish soldier gets full pension if they only do 4 years in british army so why should others..

Yes the Gurkha's signed up for the army but most did not even work in uk - and yet expect us to house them years after they left the army and went home!

we haven't got the housing stock or the taxes and benefits to give them, you forget that we are all struggling in this country! or do you also have your eyes shut?.

I think some one forgets that Aldershot belongs to rushmoor borough council and that also includes Farnborough - or are those in farnborough only taking my council tax for their town only?.

   Oh god, so many people scared of change. We hated the Irish once, we hated the Italians once and we hated the French and German.

Aldershot has had many empty shops for a long time, and now the Nepalese open them up for business, we should be happy.

I can now get a hair cut for 6 pounds instead of 10 pounds thanks to the Nepalese.

I can now see some pretty faces instead of fat native faces thanks to the Nepalese.

While the Native Aldershot people sign on and get drunk, the Nepalese show some respect.

I have been to Nepal and they love the British, this is how we repay them. They would open their arms to us over there, but good old Aldershot wants them out.

   Too many of Aldershot's native population have been on benefits for many years, the town has had many closed shops and has had the life sucked out of it by the recension.

The Nepalese turn up and rent houses, rent shops, pay taxes, pay council tax, open shops, open shops late and offer products that the local residents are ignorant to.

The Aldershot residents should be thankful that their sad dieing town is attractive to the Nepalese.

   lets give up our town completely - because in the eyes that don't live here they will never understand - its just that the UK has become a very soft country this is why so many people from all over the world come here - and whhen it doesn't go their way they use the racis comment every time! FACT!!

I come from a family that has generations of men and women in the armed services that have fought for their country and some still do, so before anyone from below states different.

Aldershot is not got room for thousands and thousands of Gurkha's sorry but that is fact - i do know that many of the Gurkha's didn't even come to uk when they fought for uk - so this is reason they don't speak english! - why should we in uk give way to you all?.

   Gurkhas served for our country and put their lives on the line.

They have a right to be here.

99% of the people leaving bad comments have never been in the army. Could they have fought in the war.

No - Maybe they should leave the Gurkhas alone, they don't hurt anyone.

   i would like to see a form of repatriation of nepalese . they signed a contract that when they left the british army and there time was up they were supposed to return to nepal also this contract covered there pension rights they see us as an easy touch and think that the uk is a land of milk and honey. i am rea;;y amazed at lumleys legacy i bet she doesnt have to wait for a dentist or doctors appointment but we have to. the influx of nepalese has to stop sooner rather than later as i feel racial tension will get out of hand soon.

   This debate really saddens me. I am a young Nepalese girl and moved with my family to London just few years back. We have a property here, we work for our living, we pay tax just like everyone else, we do not claim benefits!

Yes I can understand that the high influx of Nepalese immigrants might have put huge pressure on the Government around Hamshire area. However I do not blame retired Gurkhas to want to move there. Is it that the Government only wants Gurkhas when they are young and fit to work and shuns them when they are of no use? I know they claim benefits but its because they are not given equal pensions like their British comrades. They served this country, they staked their lives and when it comes to giving something back people complain!

Its hard enough for them. Their entire life was spent here, of course they would want to come back! But the country that hailed them Heroes have forgotten about their input to this society....have forgotten that these were the men that fought for their shelter during the World War II and now when they need shelter people create debate pages like this!

   Gurkhas had been part of the British forces for many years. One way or the other, to some or few, each member of the Nepalese community inter-act with UK or non-UK born residents or citizens either at work, home, neighborhood. There had been inter-racial marriage and inter-actions

To make it short - they are a part of a community and British forces.

No matter how long the debate will be, in the end, are we going to ignore the facts that we need to live in harmony with others (OR AT LEAST BE TOLERANT).

The UK government decided, the next question may be - 'how are we going to turn the situation more productive?'

There had been SO MANY cases of harassment AND bullying of 'white' residents in Aldershot, Farnborough and areas where there are Nepalese, EVEN the ASIANS who are NOT Nepalese were not spared.

A mother of two told us that she was subjected to such by white teen-agers while she was walking in Victoria road with her INFANT and a boy of 13 yrs old - the group shouted RIGHT IN HER FACE and pointed a finger. (Where are the parents and PARENTING skills? Is it time to DEVELOP PROPER PARENTING to all of us?) ............... and the only reason was, the teen-agers THOUGHT they are Nepalese where in fact, they are Filipinos working in this area as a medical staff.

For the record, i had seen a group of senior citizens Nepalese along A325 near the Wellington park - they were cleaning a portion of the side road.... for free.

With proper programme, it seems that we could all turn this current issue into positive.

Tolerance and respect. Just like any of you, we want to live in a peaceful community regardless of.

Dinez - A taxi company in Aldershot

   The group statement of the "hateful anti nepalese group" Lumleys Legacy local people concirned about their boroughs ans families future come along and find out for yourselves

http://www.facebook.com/groups/lumleyslegacy/

In 2008, Joanna Lumley became the public face of a campaign to provide all Gurkha veterans (and their dependants) who served in the British Army before 1997 the right to settle in Britain. Those serving after 1997 had already been granted permission.

Since they won the campaign they have been abandoned by Lumley's campaign and the government.

What nobody was prepared for was the massive effect this has had on the Aldershot and Farnborough; area's that are now struggling to cope with the influx of approx. 9000 Nepalese, many of which are elderly and do not speak English.

What happened next was that this caused and is still causing huge pressure on the local services. On top of housing and support they now also need translators for doctor and dentist appointments which has to be paid for on an already over stretched budget.

As a group, our problems are not with the Nepalese people themselves but the government and the fact that they never prepared the infrastructure or supplied more money to cope with the massive influx of approx 9000 (10% of the local population) people to such a small area.On top of this, no support has been offered for integration to cope with the cultural differences that would and still do effect the local community on a daily basis.

36000 Gurkhas have served on behalf of this country with all dependants given the rights to move here potentially this means that over 100000 Nepalese people have the right to be granted visa's if we cannot cope now how will we cope in the future.

THIS IS IN NO WAY A RACIST GROUP WE HAVE A GREAT APPRECIATION FOR THE SACRIFICES THAT THE GURKHAS HAVE MADE FOR OUR COUNTRY

RACIST POSTS WILL BE DELETED AND THE MEMBER/MEMBERS FOUND RESPONSIBLE WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE GROUP WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE

THREATENING BEHAVIOUR WILL NOT BE TOLERATED AND ANY MEMBER/MEMBERS FOUND RESPONSIBLE WILL REMOVED FROM THE GROUP WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE

   Yes lets copy Enfield

   Are from the carry on films sylvia..try living here now we have Mr Cameron our suppose to saviour of the Country supporting the spending of MILLIONS on immegrants and if anyone disputes this try asking the question..pension credit,housoing benefit,council tax benefit,health(now they want nursing home)come back to that later..schooling,attendance allowance,disability living allowaNCE,MOBILITY ALLOWANCE,free bus pass and more. The latest I read was that they will require nursing home places but they want family over hear by immegration means to support them elder life what do they want. No no good the best we can do is convince we know we like Ghurkas but please we are not talking them like the Politicians we are talking hangers on Nepalese Gypsies. And Folkstone please inform us what your most popular named Nepalese surname is then I'll tell you what ours is and I bet I can tell you why we have the difficultiues.

   The people of Aldershot should be ashamed of themselves.

   Living in Nepal the past 6 years, I'm not sure I will ever want to return to the UK, but maybe if I could settle in Rushmoor I might consider it. I enjoy living here so much and one of the things that keeps me here in Nepal is being able live with these people, and so I find it hard to understand how people can't want Nepalis in their community. We have so much to learn from them.

I teach English, sometimes to Nepalese students wanting to study or work abroad. I try to teach them a little about what to expect (especially if they want to go to the UK), and sadly, I'm not sure many fully appreciate the warnings I give to them, that life is really not as easy as they think it might be outside their country.

Everywhere in the world though, people are moving. I was surprised at the number of Indian workers who come to Nepal to work, when I used to think Nepal was far poorer or worse off.

I used to live in central London, and again one of things I enjoyed most about where I lived was the multicultural environment.

I'm born and bred British (and half French).

   just hiding behind the racism card isn't going to solve anything & to say there's not a problem is clearly incorrect. i have personnally seen young teenagers just the other day shouting abuse to an elderly nepalese woman as she passed by on her way into aldershot, this incensed me so that i gave the group a dressing down which shut them up but they'd probably do it again later & these were school kids!! to make matters worse we're in a recession & unemployment is high with many school leavers looking for work and having no luck. my seventeen year old son had applied recently to one of aldershot's fast food chains for a job and was actually asked if he could speak nepalese, which he couldn't - he wasn't offered the job but if you take a look at some of the main fast food establishments around this area you'll notice the majority of people serving behind the counters don't appear to be white european (this isn't being racist just a personal observation). the problem has got to be faced by people of influence in our council who have to have the moral courage to want to serve the people who voted for them - these arn't racists these are ordinary folk who fear that they are getting left behind by an increasing influx of immigrants who may be seen (incorrectly at times) to take up local housing, school places, hospital places, local jobs etc. in a time where these seem at a premium. this can breed resentment & it might not be long before those who might wish to take advantage of the situation (ie. far right groups) may come crawling out of the woodwork to crank up tensions between groups. a question i'd like to ask is who's idea was this in the first place & surely somebody would have considered the consequences of a failed multicultural society programme just by looking at other parts of the country. i'd hate to see social unrest & public demonstrations but the longer this goes on the more frustrated people will become on all sides & it will be of our own government's making with their inaction & cowadice to put the people's needs first before their own cushy jobs.